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⚡ "The Future of Hydrogen and Electric Commercial Vehicles"

The Fully Charged PLUS Podcast

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Table of Contents

Host: Robert Llewellyn
Guest: Lars Stenqvist | Executive Vice President | Volvo Group Trucks Technology
Category: ⚡ Renewable Energy

Podcast’s Essential Bites:

[6:07] “We believe that we need three technologies in parallel in order to go fossil free. […] For us, it's rather clear, and that we cannot rely only on the combustion engine, because simply there will not be enough biofuels available to decarbonize road transport completely. So for that reason, we have a very clear path going forward that the absolute majority of the vehicles will be electric. We believe that they will be a combination or a mix of battery electric vehicles and […] fuel cell electric vehicles.”

[7:14] “City applications, […] where you have a transport company with some kind of fixed route, you come home every evening, you can use the night to recharge your batteries, those vehicles will definitely be battery electric. And then we see clearly that the development of batteries goes fast, really fast. […] We are in serial production for battery electric vehicles up to 26 tons. […] Next year, we will go up to 44 tons.”

[8:10] “For truly [heavy duty vehicles] likely fuel cell electric vehicles will be more beneficial. You will get a longer range and shorter refueling time or recharging time. And most likely also then the weight of the vehicle will be much lower than a fully charged battery electric vehicle. […] So for those customers that are load sensitive from a weight perspective, they can get more cargo on board on heavy lifting to fuel cell electric.”

[12:18] “It's not about [being] small and light for us, it's about durability. That is the challenge for our vehicles. […] When it comes to the cost and the performance, we took a very, very important decision. We have formed a joint venture together with Daimler Trucks. […] We have seen clearly that in order to get the right volumes, for the right development and production of fuel cells, we need to combine our volumes. […] And by doing so, we have now created the necessary scale, the necessary volume, both for development but even more important for production. Because if you need a very high volume in order to set up the production facilities in the right way, in order to get the costs down.”

[17:43] “We have made some calculations […] and […] until 2025 […] in Europe, […] we calculated that you need around 11,000 […] charging ports for heavy duty trucks and in 2030 up to around […] 40,000 charging points. We need to get this going now.”

[21:24] “There are some advantages [regarding hydrogen]. It's much quicker to fill up a hydrogen truck, we're talking about 20 minutes approximately. And you have a much longer range. […] Our industry association [is] stating that by 2025 around 500 charging points for hydrogen would be sufficient. And by 2030, if there were 1,000 charging points or refueling points for hydrogen, that would also […] suitable to the demand. So the magnitude in the say numbers of shorting points versus refueling points is very much in favor of hydrogen.”

[35:10] “We are seriously looking into the possibility of burning hydrogen in combustion engines. By that you wouldn't, per definition, get any carbon dioxide emissions, no greenhouse gas. So that can very well be a solution for both the biggest construction machines and also from a trucking perspective, the truly heavy haulers […]. So, we believe in all three technologies in parallel. […] The future will tell exactly the mix in percentages between them with a bit depending on legislation, depending on infrastructure, and the prices, etc.”

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🕰️ 48 min | 🗓️ 11/01/2021
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